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Kade Jeekin
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.04.16 11:58:00 -
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Good work brother. It is good that a corporation had such a large placement available. If any others reading this should have any places available, no matter how small, then we always have plenty of candidates. Contact the Liberty Network: Libery Network Details --------------------------------------- Outface the depths of evil with clarity --------------------------------------- |
Kade Jeekin
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.04.18 10:07:00 -
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Edited by: Kade Jeekin on 18/04/2007 10:07:24 Edited by: Kade Jeekin on 18/04/2007 10:04:48 Why is it that the Amarr on GalNet are always saying that they treat slaves good when all the evidence, such as work camps, breeding farms, chemical control, arbitrary murder and gladiator fights, all show how brutal they really are? What is the source of these Amarran fantasies? Are the holders and elites really kept ignorant of what goes on? Just because you can write just about anything on GalNet does not make it true. Oh and before anyone quibbles over race again. Race is unimportant - just see how many Caldari, Matari and Gallente peoples support the Amarran system. --------------------------------------- Outface the depths of evil with clarity --------------------------------------- |
Kade Jeekin
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.04.18 10:16:00 -
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Rodj Blake. And how does your point answer my questions? Your input is meaningless in context. I do not remember reading anywhere that the Matari don't do what you say. --------------------------------------- Outface the depths of evil with clarity --------------------------------------- |
Kade Jeekin
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.04.18 10:31:00 -
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Slaver, take your SPCS and your supercilious attitude and go to hell. None of what you state answers my questions about the fictions that people like Mekarae promote. It is, obviously, not something you can answer. --------------------------------------- Outface the depths of evil with clarity --------------------------------------- |
Kade Jeekin
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.04.18 10:59:00 -
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Edited by: Kade Jeekin on 18/04/2007 10:55:35 Meh, she replied - making my post irrelevant --------------------------------------- Outface the depths of evil with clarity --------------------------------------- |
Kade Jeekin
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.04.18 11:25:00 -
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With your permission Camar? No Mekarae, you have a lot to gain by lying. You wish to promote the idea that your lifestyle is somehow valid. You, and others gloss it with "Slave abuse is a bad thing but the exception and not the rule". and "Most Amarrians that I have met do not endorse the mistreatment of slaves." Your pretty words and attempts at glamour can not gloss over the truths that I have stated previously, and many have seen beyond these IGS pages. I challenge you to present one independent report of good treatment. --------------------------------------- Outface the depths of evil with clarity --------------------------------------- |
Kade Jeekin
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.04.18 12:58:00 -
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Rodj Blake, don't troll me.
Take your ... supercilious attitude and go to hell. None of what you state answers my questions about the fictions that people like Mekarae promote. It is, obviously, not something you can answer.
I challenge you to present one independent report of good treatment. --------------------------------------- Outface the depths of evil with clarity --------------------------------------- |
Kade Jeekin
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.04.18 14:22:00 -
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Mekarae, just more fancy weasley words. Your proposition of the nature of the 'geo-political media' just gives free-reign to any old fantasy people may wish to construct. As, I suspect your whole premise of 'We have an equivalent number on our estates as Camar managed to free, so what you do is worthless' argument.
You accuse me of having a closed mind and ears but you have not actually said anything that can be backed up. I have lived under ignorance due to people like youself before. It is not something I will go back to. My weight of evidence far outweighs anything you have presented.
If I, and other's like me, did not escape the grips of your blind faith then we would not be having this discussion. I believe you would have preferred it that way, and dream when it may be so again. --------------------------------------- Outface the depths of evil with clarity --------------------------------------- |
Kade Jeekin
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.04.18 17:30:00 -
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I will presume you are not suggesting that the Amarr keep people enslaved soley for economic reasons. That you are arguing that better treatment gets better economic results. I will presume that you are suggesting that "means at our disposal to control slaves if the need arises" implies that the need rarely arises.
I have one name, from recent history, that should burst your bubble of a docile enslaved populace that if offered freedom from your kind would spurn it, and return on bended knee. One name to add to your economic equation. That name is Mabnen.
Know this slaver, we are those who escaped your killing fields, concentration camps and chemical control. We know what it is that we fight. It is the reason for our fury. Your attempts to paint us as deluded have no foundation. --------------------------------------- Outface the depths of evil with clarity --------------------------------------- |
Kade Jeekin
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.04.26 11:06:00 -
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Ashar KorAzor, your extensive posts are undermined by the same arrogance as Mekarae. Your jokes about a third of Minmatar 'choosing' to live in the Amarr Empire are ill-placed, or you are as self-deceiving as Mekarae.
So, your ancestors stumbled across the poor Matari and thought they'd bring light to their dark lives? Or, was it that, with eyes aglow with greed, they used their advanced weaponry to do the lowliest act of a barbarian, steal everything for themselves? 125 years of raids followed by complete conquest. Destroying thousands of years of cultural development. Plunging a people into a dark age of over 700 years. Our Great Rebellion finally liberating a small portion of our people, just 125 years ago. In trying to restablish cultural identity post-rebellion, perhaps forms that would have died out are resurrected. However, Matari tradition is something that is still new to me, so I will leave it to others to defend, if they will.
Minmatar barbarity does not excuse the barbarity of slavery. It is mainly the Minmatar who are the victims. Until the Amarr acknowledge slavery as a crime against humanity, until they cease its practice, there can be little progress towards any sort of reconciliation.
It is not hate that fuels me, but a will to humanitarian civilisation and fury at your continued debasement of my peoples. Let my people go. --------------------------------------- Outface the depths of evil with clarity --------------------------------------- |
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Kade Jeekin
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.04.26 14:13:00 -
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Lucia Warbler, it is the faults of the present that are built on the faults of the past. Whilst the Amarr continue to preach that the majority of enslaved Minmatar are happy and choose to be enslaved they deny a future without the conflagration you fear. The solutions are simple, acknowledge their humanity, acknowledge their equality, acknowledge the fault - free them, and make reparation for your crimes. --------------------------------------- Outface the depths of evil with clarity --------------------------------------- |
Kade Jeekin
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.04.27 16:10:00 -
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Ashar KorAzor, I appreciate more the tone of you last communication, although the last comment about your not holding any of my people was a bit facile as my comment was a general one to the Amarr supporters. The previous one's just grated me and sounded like so many other apologists for the Amarr system. However, I will study your background a bit more rather than pandering to my own prejudices.
I will answer a few of your points. Why no general rebellion current within the Empire? Perhaps an answer is that the Amarr have become more subtle and sophisticated in their control methods, let me quote from Vitoc "Now, although [suicide is] still an option, few people are brave enough to dare it.". Alternatively, perhaps its just not something you'd hear about until too late, did The Ardishapur know of the rebellion before it was already upon him?
Our methods of liberation use a wonderful module called a "Cargo Scanner" when possible. The number of people saved is the same as that scanned. The crew are given opportunity to eject. If the slavers think they can hold out against a warship, perhaps hoping for the Amarr Navy, Police force or Vigilante to come rescue them, then that is not something I can save them from. Most of our losses come because a Vigilante or Pirate traps us. --------------------------------------- Outface the depths of evil with clarity --------------------------------------- |
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